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Blast Door Map « Thread Started on Mar 30, 2006, 3:32pm »
I found a picture of the map. I don't know how to put pictures in messages, so here is a link. Any idea who wrote it? I think it was Desmond because he seemed to know where he was running to. I also think that he went to the ? on the map.
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #1 on Mar 31, 2006, 4:52am »
Here we go.....
I think there is quite a bit of info in the small print!!
As a starter for 10 the black smoke is named Cerberus after the many headed dog which guarded the entrance to Hades - the Underworld - in ancient Greek mythology.
For those interested in picking any other similarities... Cerberus had the job of stopping the living from entering Hades and frightening the souls of the dead. But the stories tell of two people he didn't stop. The first was Hercules who as part of his labours had to capture Cerberus and bring back to Tiryns in the land of the living. The second was Orpheus.
Orpheus was a great musician who had lost his wife Eurydice and heartbroken decided to get her back from Hades. In the way was Cerberus, but Orpheus was such a brilliant musician that he charmed the savage dog. The god of the Dead Hades and his wife Persephone agreed that Orpheus could take Eurydice back to earth, but only if he did not look back at his wife before getting out of the gates. Orpheus couldn't resist a quick glance to check that his wife was following and in so doing lost her.
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #4 on Mar 31, 2006, 7:02pm »
I just found another map with Latin translations on it.
There was only one Latin term not transilated. It is Aegrescit medendo. I looked it up on yahoo and found out it means "The disease worsens with the treatment. The remedy is worse than the disease". Found on http://tvdramas.about.com/mbody.htm
Map found on the ABC Boards.
I also figured out how to put pics on.
Thanks for putting the other pic on. I think the area labeled ? is behind the concrete wall. I wonder who Magnus Hanso is. I like your Cerberus idea. If the smoke is Cerberus, i think that they lost control of it because the map says "Cerberus station believed to have been abandoned due to AH/MDG incedent of 1985 or possible catastrophic malfunction of Cerberus system".
I just now noticed that the second map says "Cadacus station believed to have been abandoned..." instead of "Cerberus station believed to have been abandoned...". Just thought I would point it out. I wonder which map is right.
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #5 on Apr 3, 2006, 12:07pm »
I was going to say the first one but have now changed my mind, changed it back and now am unsure.
Assuming that the security system is the black smoke is 'cerberus', also assuming it's man-made, is it a project of Dharma or their product? Project, then the 1st is probably right, product and I'd go with the 2nd!!
It's got to be a project though hasn't it? You'd want to test a nano-bot based system somewhere it has the least chance of getting away you could wouldn't you?? Call it Cerebus as it's your guard dog well, sort of. Makes sense to me!! So it's a project right?
So when you then look at the symbol named CADUCEUS:
Looks like the symbol of 'The Staff' to me.
So how have they confused two separate projects on the same picture??
I dunno.....
ADDITIONAL: Greek reference - caduceus or magic wand of the Greek god Hermes, messenger of the gods, inventor of magical incantations, conductor of the dead and protector of merchants and thieves. Well we have plenty of those on the island right?
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #7 on Apr 3, 2006, 8:38pm »
I was just looking at the map and I noticed that the top of the map is being cut off. I wonder if there is anymore to that map that we haven't seen and if there is, I wonder if it is important.
I think you are right about Cerberus being a product. It is the perfect military weapon. Also, wasn't Hanso connected to weapons and the military? If he is, it would make a lot of sense to have Cerberus as a product or weapon for the military.
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #9 on Apr 4, 2006, 11:05am »
I didn't notice that polar bear was written in Latin. That means that it didn't come from the comic book. I think that they are trying to adapt polar bears to warmer climates. I am not sure why they would want to do that though.
In the crossed out bunker, it looks like there is a symbol there, but I can't make it out. It could be the name of it. Any thoughts?
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #12 on Apr 6, 2006, 3:37am »
It's a nice idea but ........
if they were preparing creatures for global warming, wouldn't they be looking at the sort of creatures that form the building blocks of an eco system like insects and bacteria rather than great hulking creatures that dont really do that much to maintain their environment, basically because polar bears dont have to do that much to keep the north pole ticking over!!!!
(And by 'maintain their environment', I dont mean like keeping their bedroom tidy!!!)
Still I really can't think of any other reason for keeping Polar Bears unless they are being used for some sort of medical research, or that the island was originally part of the north pole of course and that's why they're there!! They're off on holiday!!!
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #14 on Apr 6, 2006, 5:39am »
Quote:
In the crossed out bunker, it looks like there is a symbol there, but I can't make it out. It could be the name of it. Any thoughts?
Looking at the latest incarnation of the bunker map it looks like another 'C ??' to me, possibly 'C2' following the anti-clockwise numbering of the other two??
I found a post on a different site that I can't find now that talks about the CV I, CV II, etc notations, it was something to do with Roman numerals..... not totally sure but I'll have a go.......
Allllllllllrighty then:
C = 100 V = 5 :. CV = 105
Then add on I, II, III & IV (1, 2, 3 & 4) CV I = 106 CV II = 107 CV III = 108 CV IV = 109
ABC only-knows what we are supposed to surmise from that but perhaps the latin comments tie in with these annotations??
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #15 on Apr 6, 2006, 8:10am »
Yet another version of the map:
I notice that on this version what appear to be lines of elevation appear clearer, could it be that the map shows some particularly large mountains? Even if it does can we actually do anything with the info?? I doubt it!!!
Note also that there is more than one translation for some of the latin phrases, perhaps changing the meaning quite radically.
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #16 on Apr 6, 2006, 10:32am »
Thanks for pointing out what the symbols mean. Good find.
I think you are right about there being mountains. It kind of reminds me of the map Henry drew. Maybe one of the hatches is in those mountains Sayid, Charlie, and Ana walked by.
Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #17 on Apr 6, 2006, 3:52pm »
One thing I'm curious about is that the map of the Dharma hatch appears to show a fairly large area sealed off. Any speculation as to what that might be?
And also, do we know what caused the lockdown in the first place?
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Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #18 on Apr 7, 2006, 3:40am »
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One thing I'm curious about is that the map of the Dharma hatch appears to show a fairly large area sealed off. Any speculation as to what that might be?
And also, do we know what caused the lockdown in the first place?
Sorry BC, which hatch are you talking about?
If you are talking about the SWAN and the ARROW, they both have corridors leading to/from the 'normal' door hidden in the jungle rather than the 'hatch' that got blown open at the end of S1.
There is also a note about 'numerous escape conduits blocked after incident' just below and to the left of the SWAN on the map.
Now, I'm presuming this refers to the concreted-in bits of the SWAN that Jack and Sayid found at the start of S2 around the magnetic wall, (Sayid made a comment about the last time he heard of this much concrete being poured on something was Chernobyl), but that seems like a waste of built-up intrigue wrt the Magnetic Anomoly that the SWAN bunker was alleged to have been constructed to study.
Whilst I'm on it, the map actually mentions that 'Geological Composition' is likely to cause magnetic interference with weather project.
What that means is unclear, is the geological anomoly something that spans the entire island? The Orientation video intoned that the magnetic anomoly was limited to the area that the SWAN was built in, not that it was something affecting the entire island, perhaps it meant that the source of the anomoly was near or beneath the SWAN but it does still affect the whole island??
Re: Blast Door Map « Reply #19 on Apr 7, 2006, 4:55am »
I meant the Swan, I assumed that the Dharma symbol was the Swan and the other bunkers had their own names, besides arrow and flame etc..... Or does Dharma refer to the entire island-wide project?
In any case, in the Swan, we see the large circular area (presumably the computer room) leading to what appears to be blocked off corridor with a fairly large area on the far side of it. Now, if these are the escape conduits, why do they simply lead deeper into the hatch? Okay, they do seem to eventually lead out, but there's at least one more room in there....
As for "sealed off after incident" was it mentioned before what the incident was?
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